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Reader: Incidents Around Albuquerque / Manzano Base, NM

If they were at Eubank and Lomas and the objects were traveling south they would be going directly to KAFB area.  That is not to say they weren’t UFOs, but they would have had to landed or flown over KAFB.

Case Number: 21293
Log Number: US-01012010-0004
Submitted Date: 2010-01-01 04:26 GMT
Event Date: 2010-01-01 00:00 GMT
Status: Assigned
Region: New Mexico
Country: US
Longitude: -105.845
Latitude: 36.637
Shape: Other
Description:

Well first of all it was New Years about 12:27 a.m. . i had just walked my girifriend outside and kissed her . as she was aproaching down stairs, she immediately ran back to me ,she said” babe come outside!So i went outside and she said “baqbe look “! So we b9th loooked we saw a bright red light going really slow. it did’nt have the lights as you wuold see on a air plane. It was going south now we are lococated eubank and lomas. going just asd slow as an air plane. Anyways, my girlfriend comes out her apartment as she aproaches my house she see,s another orange bright light going the same direction no noise very silent going the same direction. We wathch it untill it disapeared.
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This isn’t really fortean, but yesterday (12/16) at right about 3:30 PM there was a loud explosion type noise that shook my entire house.  For a few seconds I actually thought the second story of my house was collapsing.  The others in my house heard it and felt it, so I am not imagining things.  I live in the canyon near KAFB so I assumed they were doing explosives tests, as they sometimes do.  However, I never saw any smoke rising from the base like I normally do when they have tests.  I have checked the Albuquerque news and found no reports on this at all.  So if anyone knows what this was, please, leave me a comment or email me because I would really like to know.

Not terribly far from my house a fire has been burning in the Manzano mountains.  I am not sure how long it has been burning now, but long enough to have burnt 275 acres.  It could have been put out days ago, but the DOD (who owns the land) wouldn’t let firefighters in because they said there might be “unexploded ordnances” left over from the 1940s and 50s.  Now, days later, they suddenly change their mind.  What?  Did the unexploded ordnances disappear over night?  It seems fishy to me.  I kind of wonder what might really have been going on over there and if whatever it was actually started the fire, rather than lightening as they claim.

While I was looking for photos of the fire I came across this page which is a pretty good page about Manzano base.  It has several illustrations, like this one -

At first glance it looks right, but having searched the area on google satellite many times there seems to be a lot of missing stuff.  Especially a lot of underground storage areas (or whatever those underground thingies are used for) there are a lot more than that map shows.  That map makes you think there is only 1 mountain with shafts going underground, but that is wrong.  The one shown is the largest and what is known as Manzano Mt, but there are also two smaller ones.  Also missing is Starfire Optical Range -

I am wondering how much land is owned by the DOD because the area where the fire is burning is not on that map.  It is actually fairly far from the base, meaning there is a lot more DOD land than what people consider to be KAFB and Manzano Base.

Just another strange little thing — the area the fire is burning at in the Manzano Mts is called Mars Canyon.  Did the DOD name it that?  While there are places in NM that resemble Mars, that area isn’t one of them.  It is very green, not desert at all.

Robert Hastings, author of UFOs and Nukes, to appear on Coast To Coast AM,

July 26 2009

Noted UFO researcher, lecturer and author Robert Hastings will make his second appearance on Coast to Coast AM on July 26, 2009. Hastings will discuss important declassified U.S. government documents which confirm a decades-long UFO-Nukes Connection that began with some 150 reports of UFO activity at the Los Alamos atomic weapons laboratory as early as December 1948. According to one FBI document, dated January 31, 1949, these incidents were “considered top secret by Intelligence Officers of both the army and the air forces.”

On July 16, 1945, Los Alamos secretly tested the first atomic bomb in the desert near Alamogordo; bombs two and three were dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, Japan on August 6th and 9th respectively, thus ending World War II and ushering in the Nuclear Age. Not long thereafter, according to the declassified documents, someone piloting “flying discs” or “flying saucers” began to monitor America’s atomic and thermonuclear weapons program on an ongoing basis.

Information uncovered by Hastings and other researchers reveals that intermittent UFO surveillance of Los Alamos, and other nuclear weapons-related sites, continued throughout and the Cold War era and beyond, occurring as recently as 2006. One Air Force document declassified in 1977 reveals that several UFOs maneuvered near Minuteman nuclear missile sites outside of Malmstrom AFB, Montana, in November 1975. Some of those objects, which alternately hovered and flew around at high velocity, were also tracked on radar and chased, unsuccessfully, by jet fighters. One UFO was reported by missile security personnel to have an “orange white disc” appearance.

These dramatic incidents occurred some six years after the Air Force closed down Project Blue Book—its supposedly definitive UFO investigation—claiming that it had terminated the project because there was no evidence that UFOs posed a threat to national security. However, another now-declassified USAF document states that “Reports of unidentified flying objects which affect national security…are not a part of the Blue Book system.” Of course, the American public was never officially informed of this fact, which only became known after the document’s release years later. Researchers now have evidence that national security-related UFO incidents, including the missile base cases, were actually investigated by the Air Force Office of Special Investigations (OSI) and various counter-intelligence groups.

Hastings will also present stunning testimony from a few of the 100-plusformer or retired U.S. Air Force personnel he has interviewed, who were involved in one or more of UFO incidents at nuclear missile sites over the years. According to those sources—which include missile launch officers, targeting officers, and maintenance personnel—missiles malfunctioned on a number of occasions, at different bases during the 1960s and ‘70s, just asUFOs were sighted hovering above their underground silos, or above their launch controlfacilities.

In other words, if nuclear war with the Soviet Union had erupted during any of those incidents, the affected missiles—which displayed what the Air Force refers to as a “Guidance and Control NO-GO” error—would have sat useless in their silos.

Even more shocking than those cases is the incidentreported by former Minuteman missile launch officer DavidH. Schuur, who was stationed at Minot AFB, North Dakota, in the mid-1960s. According to Schuur, late one night, a UFO actually activatedmost ofthe ten missiles he controlled. At the time, he was in the underground Echo Flight Launch Control Capsule, receiving frantic calls from missile security guards topside, who were reporting an extremely bright object in the sky which rapidly moved from missile to missile, briefly hovering over each one. As the UFO lingered, that particular missile’s “Launch in Progress” button suddenly lit up on the control panel in the capsule. Schuur states that he had to quickly press an “Inhibit” circuit button to override thelaunch command apparently being sent to each missile by the UFO.

Schuur told Hastings that he does not know whether the missiles would have actually launched, had he not disrupted their countdown sequence, because several other “spurious indicators” had simultaneously appeared on his missile-readiness display panel. Significantly, a nearly identical incidentoccurredin Soviet Ukraine, on October 4, 1982, according to two retired Soviet Army officers interviewed by ABC News in 1994. The reporter, David Ensor, later worked at CNN as the network’s Chief National Security Correspondent.

Hastings has researched the UFO-Nukes Connection since 1973 and has been invited to speak about his findings at over 500 U.S. colleges and universities since 1981. He has just returned from two international lectures, in Stockholm Sweden and Curitiba, Brazil. His book, UFO and Nukes: Extraordinary Encounters at Nuclear Weapons Sites, is available ONLY at www.ufohastings.com

IS THE TOWN OF DULCE, NEW MEXICO THE LOCATION OF AN UNDERGROUND BASE GUARDED BY U.S. FORCES AND INHABITED BY A GROUP OF SINISTER EXTRATERRESTRIALS?

It is an absolutely incredible story, says Timothy Green Beckley editor of the Conspiracy Journal. Since the mid to late 1970s there have been all sorts of rumors about an underground laboratory beneath the town of Dulce. . .The UFO Hunters show on the History Channel recently featured the entire saga of what has been taking place on Native American soil, and a few days later George Noory and Coast to Coast AM plunged head first trying to make sense out of the various accounts that have surfaced.

Beckley admits that it is difficult to pin point exactly when this macabre saga started to develop. But he gives credit to an engineer named Paul Bennewitz for getting the ball rolling when Bennewitz says he was called to the area when aliens started to communicate with him over a radio receiver. He had been directed to Dulce after observing UFOs over Kirkland Air Force Bases nuclear storage facility. Standing near the tall cliffs outside Dulce, Bennewitz took a series of photographs showing unidentified craft diving into the mountains through what he claimed were entrance ways that could be opened and closed.

One individual in the U.S. military who was involved in the early stages of this investigation claims he engaged in hand to hand combat with ETs who had taken over level seven of the Dulce Base after a conflict with our soldiers. Another person involved in this epic committed “suicide” — or was it murder? -shortly after the “Dulce affair” was made public.

Much has been speculated upon regarding this sinister matter. But this is the complete work that contains balanced information and details from all sides. First time ever interview with Paul Bennewitz who was pushed over the edge never to return to sanity.

Timothy Green Beckley and Christa Tilton, with Sean Casteel, Dr. Michael E. Salla, Bruce Walton and me, Lesley Gunter!

http://conspiracyjournalbookshop.ecrater.com/product.php?pid=4518323

This week in my Grey Matters column, I find that there may be gold and silver in those mountains — Manzano Mountains and right beneath Manzano base.  Are gold and silver connected to UFO sightings?  I probably don’t know the answer to that, but I muse about it a bit anyway. :-)

Below is a blog post I wrote for my Land of Enchantment blog over a year ago.  I don’t normally like to cross post at different blogs, but it happens to be one of the most popular posts at any of my blogs and I plan on following it up soon at this blog with more about Green Fireballs and Project Twinkle.

I never quite realized that green fireballs were seen in NM all the way back in 1949. About 10 years ago I saw what at first I thought was a green fireball, but on closer inspection happened to be a powerful green laser shooting into the sky from Sandia/Kirtland AFB. It was supposedly used for some astronomy purpose was the rumor I heard after inquiring with a few people I thought might know the purpose. After that I assumed that probably all green fireball stories were really just lasers and people unfamiliar with lasers were mistaking them for something mysterious. However, there are several articles at the site where I got the one below that are also early reports. The laser wasn’t invented until 1960 and I believe it was only the ruby laser which was red, it was several years after before there was a green laser so maybe that can’t account for all green fireballs sightings.

There is also another explanation, all the cited sighting of green fireballs prior to 1960 took place near a national lab, or research lab. The one below in Los Alamos, one in Albuquerque where Sandia National Lab is located and a some in Alamogordo, which is next to Holloman AFB and White Sands Missile Range. Is it possible that lasers were really invented long before the public was made aware of them? Really they were invented years before Theodore Maiman patented his ruby laser, but for some reason this was top secret and so Maiman was just allowed to patent it and take credit for inventing the laser?

Just a thought.

Another thing I found interesting was the reference in the article to the thought control office. According to the site I got the article from, the writer is actually being sarcastic and referring to the Atomic Energy Commission. :-)

Los Alamos, New Mexico, Skyliner – 29 Feb, 1949

Flying Green Lights Alert Constabulary
By THE OBSERVER

Shades of the flying saucers!

Los Alamos now has flying green lights.

These will ‘o wisps seen generally about 2 a. m., have alerted the local constabulary and their presence is being talked about in Santa Fe bars.

But local wheels deny any official knowledge of the sky phenomena. Each one passes the buck to another.

FBI Denies

A call to El Paso, Tex., brought official denial from D. K. Brown, head of the Federal Bureau of Investigation district that embraces Los Alamos, that his agency had not been called to deal with the matter.

At the information or thought-control office officials indicated that they knew about the recurring green flame in the sky but indicated that it wouldn’t be wise to write about it.

Capt. Carroll Tyler, project manager, said simply that all he knew about the lights was rumor — the same rumors that everyone is hearing.

Call the Army

At the thought-control office the general reaction was that the matter was out of AEC jurisdiction and the best way to find out what was going on was to call Kirtland Field.

A call to Kirtland showed that an Army captain who asked that his name not be used because he didn’t know anything, didn’t know anything. He was eager to learn, though.

No Speculation

Official reaction was the same on the Hill except for the atmosphere of secrecy that has been thrown about a matter discussed in every saloon and drawing room from here to Santa Fe.

There was even no speculation. Could these be visitors from Mars or from the Russias [sic]? No answer.

But enough competent observers had told this observer that there was indeed something in the wine.

Shott [sic] Down Venus

And something much more tangible than the time last summer when one of the local security officers ordered out tanks and jet planes from Kirtland Field to shoot down a light low on the horizon that happened to be Venus, a well-known planet.

The jet pilots, trigger fingers ready, were disgusted at that alarm. Maybe that’s why they’re now querying the green lights.

Have you seen a green light lately?

http://www.project1947.com/gfb/skyliner.htm