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	<title>Comments on: The Creature of Conser Lake in Ivan T. Sanderson&#8217;s &#8220;Abominable Snowmen&#8230;&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: HEEL LIFTS</title>
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		<dc:creator>HEEL LIFTS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 22:58:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent work. You have gained a new subscriber. I hope you keep up the good work and I await more of these excellent posts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent work. You have gained a new subscriber. I hope you keep up the good work and I await more of these excellent posts.</p>
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		<title>By: reganlee</title>
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		<dc:creator>reganlee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 16:03:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spencer: thanks. The quotes are as if from other sources...

As to the story itself: for a Fortean, it&#039;s moot if there literally was a Flix or not in Millersburg. There are so many weird little elements and synchronicities, behaviors, responses and events that echo the story of Flix that&#039;s part of the intrigue of the story. 

You&#039;re correct that &quot;Reports of the creature fall within a relatively short period and have not occurred since,&quot; which often happens with stories like this. A strange creature pops up, hangs around for a while, then leaves. It entirely possible Flix was a hoax by the &quot;troublemakers&quot; -- although, why they would risk their lives by getting shot at is a question. 

I&#039;ve heard from several people who lived in the area at the time and they are still, after all these years, interested, so I wouldn&#039;t say &quot;nobody cares&quot; but no doubt many are convinced it&#039;s all a hoax and have moved on.

Either way, the story, as a story and part of the Bigfoot/Big Hairy Monster lore, remains.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spencer: thanks. The quotes are as if from other sources&#8230;</p>
<p>As to the story itself: for a Fortean, it&#8217;s moot if there literally was a Flix or not in Millersburg. There are so many weird little elements and synchronicities, behaviors, responses and events that echo the story of Flix that&#8217;s part of the intrigue of the story. </p>
<p>You&#8217;re correct that &#8220;Reports of the creature fall within a relatively short period and have not occurred since,&#8221; which often happens with stories like this. A strange creature pops up, hangs around for a while, then leaves. It entirely possible Flix was a hoax by the &#8220;troublemakers&#8221; &#8212; although, why they would risk their lives by getting shot at is a question. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve heard from several people who lived in the area at the time and they are still, after all these years, interested, so I wouldn&#8217;t say &#8220;nobody cares&#8221; but no doubt many are convinced it&#8217;s all a hoax and have moved on.</p>
<p>Either way, the story, as a story and part of the Bigfoot/Big Hairy Monster lore, remains.</p>
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		<title>By: spencer</title>
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		<dc:creator>spencer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 06:40:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just browsing that bit from the book and noticed a number of errors, among them &quot;Devers-Conner, about 30 miles south of Millersburg&quot;.   The name of the area is Dever-Conner and Conser Lake is only about 5 miles NW down the Willamette River from Millersburg.

...I don&#039;t want to kill the buzz, but I can say I&#039;m an Albany native and my family&#039;s been here for a few generations now.  My great aunt and uncle have both told me that the Westby boys were &quot;trouble makers&quot; and recalls them bragging about having fooled a number of people who provided original accounts of Flix.  This is non-existant.  Nobody in the area knows or cares about the legend.  Reports of the creature fall within a relatively short period and have not occurred since, which could relate to the relocating of locals, their involvement, and their word of mouth in the hostel-size community.

Flix was cool to believe in when we were kids and growing up a few miles as a crow flies from Conser Lake (and a few blocks from the Conser family), but the legend is truly garbage.  I wouldn&#039;t promote it any further or set any store in what you read concerning it.  Fooled!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just browsing that bit from the book and noticed a number of errors, among them &#8220;Devers-Conner, about 30 miles south of Millersburg&#8221;.   The name of the area is Dever-Conner and Conser Lake is only about 5 miles NW down the Willamette River from Millersburg.</p>
<p>&#8230;I don&#8217;t want to kill the buzz, but I can say I&#8217;m an Albany native and my family&#8217;s been here for a few generations now.  My great aunt and uncle have both told me that the Westby boys were &#8220;trouble makers&#8221; and recalls them bragging about having fooled a number of people who provided original accounts of Flix.  This is non-existant.  Nobody in the area knows or cares about the legend.  Reports of the creature fall within a relatively short period and have not occurred since, which could relate to the relocating of locals, their involvement, and their word of mouth in the hostel-size community.</p>
<p>Flix was cool to believe in when we were kids and growing up a few miles as a crow flies from Conser Lake (and a few blocks from the Conser family), but the legend is truly garbage.  I wouldn&#8217;t promote it any further or set any store in what you read concerning it.  Fooled!!</p>
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		<title>By: bob graham</title>
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		<dc:creator>bob graham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 18:00:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was there.
In the winter of 1960-61 I was going to school in Salem.
At that time there were a rash of monster (or Big Foot) sightings in the Willamette Valley: so many that a radio station gave morning reports.
Albany was a hotspot.

One night a six of us drove down to Concer Lake.
Three were from Woodburn, so knew their way around the area.
It was foggy, and and dark. And a bit scary out there standing back to back looking in all directions.

After some hours hours two guys with scuba gear showed up. Their theory was that it hid under water, so they went out with underwater lights to find it.
The lights moving about under water and rising air bubbles added to the spooky factor.

Then a two women showed up who were self-proclaimed psychics and in &quot;communication&quot; with the monster, who actually &quot;came from outer space.&quot;

Then a reporter from some radio station.
But eventually dawn came, and no monster.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was there.<br />
In the winter of 1960-61 I was going to school in Salem.<br />
At that time there were a rash of monster (or Big Foot) sightings in the Willamette Valley: so many that a radio station gave morning reports.<br />
Albany was a hotspot.</p>
<p>One night a six of us drove down to Concer Lake.<br />
Three were from Woodburn, so knew their way around the area.<br />
It was foggy, and and dark. And a bit scary out there standing back to back looking in all directions.</p>
<p>After some hours hours two guys with scuba gear showed up. Their theory was that it hid under water, so they went out with underwater lights to find it.<br />
The lights moving about under water and rising air bubbles added to the spooky factor.</p>
<p>Then a two women showed up who were self-proclaimed psychics and in &#8220;communication&#8221; with the monster, who actually &#8220;came from outer space.&#8221;</p>
<p>Then a reporter from some radio station.<br />
But eventually dawn came, and no monster.</p>
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